• SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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    8 months ago

    Yeeeah, I found myself single again after a divorce, and I have not even tried to date seriously after seeing what’s currently on the market.

    Folks out here thinking that dating is a replacement for some much-needed therapy.

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              Yeah same meme then. OKC and every other dating site have gone so far down hill they’re underwater at this point.

              I was on OKC 10 years ago and I really liked it. I’m OKC now and my fucking god is it useless… It’s tinder 2.0 along with every other dating site Match Group bought… Oh and it’s like $50+ a month if you’re crazy enough to pay.

              I’m sure I’ll still be on there in another 10 years when it’s just swiping from live stream to live stream…

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    Everybody says this. I heard this from older people about dating 10 years ago, and 20 years ago. This is just what people say as they get older regardless of how dating changes.

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    I met my wife in 2011, just before Tinder got big in our area. I remember our single friends being ecstatic when Tinder was first around, saying about how easy it was to meet people.

    Many of them are still single and now well into their 30’s. They talk a lot about wanting to find someone special, but they just swipe and swipe and swipe all day to no avail. Shit’s bleak out there. And I just know that if I didn’t meet my wife I’d probably be stuck in the same rut.

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      What does Genz dating look like that is different than how anyone else dates? I haven’t done much dating lately. (Been in a relationship for 4 years or so and I’m not gen Z).

      I assume it all goes the same. People in your direct area (work, school, hobbies). Then online dating stuff. Which once again I’m sure varies by preferences.

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        I’m Gen X. Online dating didn’t really exist when I started dating my husband in 2000. I mean you could find local people via AOL Chat and maybe there were early versions of things like match.com, but for the most part you met people in meatspace. There wasn’t social media the way we know it now so you couldn’t do much online stalking.

        The online component seems like it introduces a bunch of angst into dating. Due to gender imbalances on dating apps, it seems to become a numbers game for some. And from what I understand, a lot of the female profiles are bots. It also seems like it’s common to check out a potential date’s Instagram or other social media accounts, so rather than organically meeting a person, you’re evaluating a profile, which probably doesn’t give an accurate idea of who the person is. And it seems like young people live their lives increasingly online, so chance encounters in meatspace are rarer, plus it seems there’s some reticence to chat up a stranger to see if it goes somewhere.

        It looks like a massive headache.

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        When the woman expects the man to make $500k/yr. And spend about $300+ daily on said woman.

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    yeah. plenty of fish / ok cupid era I had a date every night for two weeks at one point met some great people, a few relationships, then met my wife “organically”

    Tinder only worked for the 80% m4m hookup, occasional m4f at like festivals or big events.

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    I do thank the stars I didn’t have to try the dating app scene. It seems soul crushing from the outside

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    8 months ago

    That’s an incredibly accurate way of describing what looking at dating today feels like.

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    I’m on “the apps” as a nearly 40 year old. It is a nightmare for sure. With so many options little things or “not vibing” on the very first in-person interaction ends any chance at forming a relationship.

    While this negative thinking about dating can def lead down or around the incel community, there are def many negative aspects of online dating becoming the norm that are def not ideal.

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          Paid apps is where it went wrong. It stopped being something that happened organically and became a gamified P2W experience that catered to narcissists.

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            And the narcissistic aggressive assholes made it 1000x worse for everyone else…

            So many “upgrades” were made to “protect” people but all that really amounted to was: people won’t see your messages unless they already like you (so no introducing yourself). Message limits so you can only send one new message a day, so for us guys who get ignored 99.9999999999% of the time we’re now stuck on the site 10000x longer. No browsing method, only swiping so people “disappear” once you’ve made a decision in that moment. Etc etc…

            Now sites like plenty of fish have fucking live steaming … Talk about narcissists… They even have messages like “not looking, only here to stream.” They’re just milking the desperate guys who throw money at them for validation or whatever…

            Dating, especially as a 30+ in 2024 is disgustingly depressing…

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        I’m old enough to be in this relationship for nearly 20 years. It started on a dating site, in the early 2000’s Internet and that site managed to get two introverts into happy union. I think that would look rather different for more social butterflies.

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        I don’t get all the hate dating apps get. I met my wife on bumble, so maybe I’m biased. But still, it seems significantly better than the methods previous generations had (blind dating, speed dating, getting introduced to random friends that might happen to have something in common).

        What’s the alternative? You just happen to get lucky enough to meet someone in your daily life that’s a good fit? One of the advantages of dating apps is that you get introduced to a much larger pool of potential partners than you otherwise would, which makes it significantly easier to filter out the wheat from the chaff and find a good fit.

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          I think part of the problem is dating apps keep getting worse and worse as they try to squeeze as much profit out of their users as possible. Tinder just came out with a $500/month tier

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            Pretty much this. I remember OG OkCupid and it was rad. It was a site ran by data nerds who wanted to help nerds find each other, and they wrote pretty frequent blog posts about their findings and how they were changing things up all for like ~$15 a month. All that started eroding until they got bought out by Match and its a cesspool of microtransactions now.

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          Dating apps are designed to keep you on them. They cant make money of you use them for a few months and then delete it.

          Young people are actually using social media platforms like Instagram and Snapchat to date. People you sorta knew in high school or college, share some mutual interests, and then hang out from there and see what happens.

        • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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          I’m sure those who are still dating do now, but dating apps didn’t really start becoming popular until the mid 2010s, and millennials were well into their 20s already. Lots were able to take that last chopper out.

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            It was more late 00s. I met my wife on OkC in 2008, and Match and it had been around for awhile at that point. It was still something vaguely embarrassing, and people didn’t usually talk about using those.

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            Man, I wasn’t even trying to settle down in my 20’s a little. It wasn’t until my 30’s that I thought about slowing down with the casual hook ups and happened to reconnect with a nice man from high school.

            Do meet up groups not exist anymore? Does Gen Z lack any space to explore mutual hobbies and meet new people?

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              I mean it seems the same as it ever was to me, newly single younger Millennial here and I’m seeing a Gen Z woman.

              Seems the biggest change in the last 4ish years is there are a lot more ethical Non-monogamy people, but I’m wondering if that’s just a youth culture thing.

              The woman I’ve been seeing says that she is ENM, but all her actions indicate otherwise to me. Which I don’t mind, Im not really non-monogamous, just pretty open and flexible with things. Also below age 25-30 have a lot more “doesn’t want kids” vibes going on

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              Does Gen Z lack any space to explore mutual hobbies and meet new people?

              Shared interests have pretty much moved online, free/cheap places for physical meetups are disappearing, and in a car-dependent world you’re not gonna meet someone randomly in-between your planned out destinations.

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          They did and still do. Anybody dating today regardless of their age is likely to try a dating app at least for a bit. Don’t buy into this generational division.

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          The apps hadn’t been so thoroughly ruined by Match Group yet. OKCupid used to publish interesting detailed reports about dating habits. Plenty of Fish wasn’t full of bots and scammers. The apps that charged you for basic features were largely avoided. The experience was weird and new.

          The dating app landscape as it is now is basically just whichever is the latest one until Match acquires it.

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            Those of us who are right on the cusp (let’s say 95-99) all use the apps but end up finding partners irl instead anyway. Either that or not at all. Just not on the apps.

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    Feel kinda bad for the younger generations. At this point they can’t even go to other countries to find a significant other because they’ll just plague those other countries too with their degenerate social culture.

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    I met my SO in… I think it was 2017? Well after the rinse of Tinder. We did not meet on Tinder, and neither of us have ever had an account on there.

    We met through a social group for a game (not dissimilar to pokemon go), where we happened to play for the same team in the same area. We would have team meet ups occasionally and all go for coffee and to play the game at locations where there was a lot of things to do in the game.

    I have not, and likely will never, use something like Tinder. Not only is it unlikely that my current relationship would fail, but even if I found myself single for some reason, I just couldn’t care less. I’ve been through it all already. A LOT of shit relationships to the point where I’m kind of over it. If I didn’t have my current relationship, I’m not sure I’d care to get into another one. To put it simply, my partner and I are so well matched that we’ve never felt the need to even raise our voice at eachother. I have an amazing relationship, we’re both happy and comfortable. The only thing left to do is put a ring on it and wait for our inevitable demise. I wouldn’t try to find any cheap substitute for them. Nobody has a chance of measuring up. I don’t think that would be fair to anyone involved.

    I have no illusions. I was profoundly lucky. So I don’t expect anyone to “get” it.

    I am with them, and they are with me, now, until the end of our days. Separate, and together.