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    11 months ago

    Wait till you hear what happens on the factory farms that nearly everyone’s meat and dairy comes from. Animals would be lining up for a chance to be treated as well as this dolphin that died at the hands of this bastard.

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      It’s a livestock’s life that’s more inhumane, not its death. “Riddled with bullets” is undoubtedly more painful than cutting open the superior vena cava.

      That being said, what they did to the dolphin is horrible, and I hope they get caught.

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      I have no idea why you’re being downvoted. The fishing industry is possibly the biggest monster in the world and people are just fine with what they can not see. I used to own a sailboat. I can tell say first hand it can be disgusting out there. Ya’ll need to watch some documentaries. Thousands of marine animals are being slaughtered right now while you’re reading this.

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        I have no idea why you’re being downvoted.

        Probably because shooting a random dolphin isn’t great

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          Yeah taking “single dolphin shot repeatedly” to “but what about the fishing industry” isn’t a productive take, it’s whataboutism. They are independent issues, and trying to put focus on one removes the focus from the other

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            11 months ago

            I think it’s good to make people connect their disdain for animal abuse to something they can actually do something about

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              11 months ago

              Maybe check yourself before checking others Mr “other races are like different species”.

              I doubt anybody in here is looking for diet or moral advice from a classic 1800’s slave owning racist mindset.

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                  Racism is a subset of speciesism (which is when you think it is okay to kill some species but not others) so I think the comparison is reasonable.

                  Direct quote of you equating different races to different species.

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                    Racism: “You can put those people in a camp because they have a different skin color”
                    Speciesism: “You can put those beings in a camp because they have feathers”

                    The step you need, to go from “racism is wrong” to “speciesism is wrong” is to extend your circle of compassion to all sentient animals and not just humans.

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                It is amazing to watch someone’s mind melt like this just because the truth of their food source is pointed out to them. This is a full-blown insane comment.

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                  This is some coping. It’s explained in their quote in the next comment, if you wanted to engage in good faith, you would have followed up below, with the full context. You just wanted to puke your ego as hard as you could and couldn’t hold it for 2 whole comments.

                  You literally don’t even know my diet, and you are having this kind of meltdown lmao. Go back to tumblr.

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            I don’t think this is whataboutism in its most deflective form; I think it’s, “Why are we concerned about a one-off incident but not looking at the elephant in the room?”

            I guess I don’t consider things whtaaboutism if it’s pointing to something that encapsulates the original issue. These issues are not mutually-exclusive and signal the same problem: It’s just asking why people are inconsistent with their outrage. In other words, whataboutism in this context can be effective when pointing out hypocrisy and double-standards.

            To contrast, whataboutism as a deflection tends to be a substitute for, “You did it, too! Thus ignore what I did / what I did wrong is justified.” Again, this is not that.

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              Except one (shooting a dolphin repeatedly) is an act of sport or maliciousness, while the slaughter of marine mammals is an issue of the fishing industry. It’s like someone locking someone up in their basement vs the unjust imprisonment for many inmates that happens in the US. One is personal, and specific, one is systemic, happens all the time, and needs to be approached with a broader scope. They are all wrong, but you can’t lump them together because you are generally upset

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                I think we can absolutely say that industrialized slaughter is objectively worse in terms of the scale of suffering for the victims. We abstract the moral suffering in the fishing farm; but whoa, if someone individually shoots an animal — totally different! At the end of the day, scale is what matters.

                Personally I couldn’t care less about the assailant’s state of mind; what matters is the victim

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                  I never said one was worse, I just said that derailing the conversation of one to focus on the other wasn’t productive

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                    I disagree because it connects two topics — one that is generally accepted by society — to another that everyone perceives as wrong because of an intimate emotional reaction.

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            It’s a one time incident. This is like when everyone lost their minds when a single turtle got a straw stuck in its nose. I’m not saying that wasn’t a bad thing. Just like I never said someone shooting a dolphin isn’t horrible.

            But why offer a 20K reward for this while completely ignoring the mass slaughter taking place every day? Talk about unproductive.

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      That reminds me, gotta make dinner, some nice juicy chicken should do fine!

      Gotta pick up some ice cream as well!

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        11 months ago

        “since you oppose racism im gonna tell you all about being racist”

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          “Racism is when you hate animals”

          See we can all type stupid shit in quotes and pretend it’s what the other person said.

          Since we’re criticizing each others diets, yall could do more for the planet by not having kids or eating anything at all.

          Just saying.

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            Racism is a subset of speciesism (which is when you think it is okay to kill some species but not others) so I think the comparison is reasonable.

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              You think races are different like species are different?

              Lmao, and where is this racist kettle, Pot?

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          Nah, I just added some semi relevant information, just like the comment before mine