• Mercival@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I really don’t like the “born this way” argument. The science does not support it, and it concedes to argue on the terms of the homophobes.

    Rather than “this is me, there’s nothing wrong with who I am”, it argues “this is me, and it’s not my fault”.

    EDIT: the science accepts genetics is a factor, but not the only factor. Sexuality is not a choice either way. My point is, even if it were, it wouldn’t matter because there is fundamentally nothing wrong with being gay.

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      1 year ago

      … Wat.

      The science DOES support it and it doesn’t concede anything to homophobes. Their whole argument is we have to choose the way we are. We do not because we are born this way. Moreover, we must be born this way as homosexuality exists in other animals as well.

      Also the argument does NOT say “it’s not my fault.” The argument is “I didn’t choose this.”

      Massive difference between what you’re suggesting and what’s happening.

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        1 year ago

        The current accepted model involves both genetic and early psycho-developmental factors. There are studies on identical twins that grew up in separate households and the co-inheritance is nowhere near 100%.

        My point is, it should not matter whether you were born gay, or not. What matters is, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way you are.

        “Their whole argument is we have to choose the way we are.”

        That is exactly my point. Let’s not pretend their argument is in good faith or in any way truly relevant. Even if it were a choice, it would in absolutely no way detract from the point, there is nothing wrong with it.