You can drop a bomb in the middle of a crowd of people and still claim to not have been targeting the people, they were just there. Doesn’t really change the evilness of the action one way or the other.
“They put on a blindfold and fired into a crowd with a machine gun. Clearly, as they weren’t specifically targeting the civilians in the crowd, it’s all okay!” - State Department desperately trying to come up with excuses for American policy towards Israel
All those journalists dying in their beds at night aren’t targeted eh? Seems legit.
More dead journos in 90 days than all of WW2.
Doesn’t look like anything to me.
According to an unsourced claim on Al Jezeera, which is definitively a source we can trust for this conflict.
Who would you trust more?
Someone that posts their sources, for one
Edit: lots of downvotes, but no sources for the claim?
It depends on what your definition of “civilian” is.
For sake of argument, suppose they earnestly believe this. I can think of a scenario consistent with that belief: that they also believe there are no civilians in the region, and that everyone present is Hamas.
That’s not better than killing thousands of civilians UNINTENTIONALLY.
Nor does it remove it from being a war crime. Just being indifferent to whether one hits civilians or not is a war crime. The bar is one has to concern oneself actively with considering how to minimise civilian casualties.
It seems more like a wanton disregard for civilian casualties. Blowing up entire apartment towers because they believe one or more people there were valid targets is unacceptable but not technically targeting civilians.
And we’re going to belive the fucking state department? Yeah right.
Just like there no evidence police deliberately use excessive force. It’s just standard procedure, nothing personal.
You’re going to have to take my word for it because I’m lazy and in bed, but Israel goes to serious effort to make no distinction between civilian, terrorist, protester or child.
They have rules of engagement so broad that basically nobody is safe. When soldiers gunned down children, they are either not charged or cleared by falsified evidence. Some of which admits that they killing was unjustified and offers alternative explanations to be given to the press.
Their bombs arent deliberately targeting much of anything… Even though those bombs are extremely expensive and capable of centimeter precision targeting.
The Yankee War Machine department expects me to believe this.
Hamas was just the bodies that fell along the way.
All good then, you may resume. /S
God is dead still, they keep killing him for some reason. Sides don’t matter.
Might as well justify America’s mass shootings too. War is war.
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For the cases when the Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield), what does the esteemed audience suggest?
Don’t kill the human shield? You don’t kill the hostages in a hostage situation. Well, if you’re not Israel, at least. They seem fine with killing Israeli hostages as well and just blaming the other party for killing them by them not moving them out of the way of IDF bombs.
Don’t kill civilians.
It’s not hard unless you’ve lost your moral compass.
I am sorry, but this isn’t an answer to the question.
If is if you’d open your mind a tiny bit.
If bombing hostages isn’t an option, what else can you do?
If it’s a city full of terrorists what do you do?
Don’t kill civilians.
How is this hard for you?
Whatever. You don’t understand the question and your attempt to force me in a box of your thinking is not working.
I am sorry for the loss. But civilians will die as in any war.
I understand all your lot comments about land. But nothing justifies what has been done by Hamas.
It is them who you must blame for the consequences. The consequences is what you get when you lend your ears to those whose agenda you don’t want to understand.
I am sorry for you guys. You put Israel and Russia on the same level. I am sorry for your blindsight.
You are choosing not to understand that the existence of terrorism is not a free pass to kill civilians.
“Civilians will die” is you approving of attacks on civilians. They wouldn’t die if Israel didn’t bomb them.
It’s a city that’s >95% civilians, 50% children.
You don’t blindly kill them is what you do.
I am sorry for the people there. But none of you defenders of Hamas suggest anything that is a fair price for what the Hamas did in Israel.
Defending Palestinians is not defending Hamas you sick fuck.
If you truly believe this, you’ve fallen for the brainwashing by your gov’t/media.
I thought you said the terrorists were using civilians as human shields, now they’re all terrorists?
Make up your mind, jeez.
It isn’t. Do not try to suggest otherwise.
It is, you just don’t like it
Let’s say for the sake of argument that a terrorist cell popped up in your town. Would be okay for the government to carpet bomb your town, including your house, to remove them? If not, how is that different from the scenario in Gaza?
In this case the terrorist organisation is the de facto government and they just escalated an ongoing conflict into a war
I understand you’re furious as many others here, but what exactly is it you suggest doing in this case?
Almost anything else, including doing nothing, is better than indiscriminately murdering people.
How is this so hard for people to understand?
Take food and water to hand out to the people.
To the terrorists or what
You said …
Hamas are hiding in the same buildings as civilians (effectively using them as a human shield)
So handing out water and food wouldn’t just be to the few (if any) Hamas members hiding there.
It would be a great help to the innocent Palestinians who are caught in the IDF’s crosshairs.
I would be banned if I said what I think members of the IDF should do.
