• OneLemmyMan@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    It’s true that it’s not always about the money, but it’s probably never about a ping pong table

    • pain_is_life_is_pain@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      Well, hypothetical speaking, if there were two completely absolutely identical jobs, but the one had a ping pong table. I might choose the one without and ask them to get a Foosball table, since I’m no good at ping pong.

    • TheForvalaka@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      Most places that have HR like this work their employees too hard for them to have time to use a ping pong table anyway, so it’s really just a hollow gesture.

    • Tandybaum@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I was at my last job for 10 years.

      If I had been well paid and treated well I would not have ever started that job search. Further even just having one of those two thing might have kept me from looking.

      At that job I hit the tipping point of both. It’s was getting shittier everyday and the pay wasn’t budging year after year. Finally mid-Covid the power flipped to the employee and jobs were much easier to get. I started looking and jumped shipped.

  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    As a professional in this field, top reasons would be…

    • Dissatisfaction with pay
    • Limited/No career progression
    • Dissatisfaction with environment/culture
    • Dissatisfaction with management
    • Poor work-life balance
    • Poor job design/expectations of role
    • Poor taining quality/knowledge management
    • Inadequate tools/systems

    Edit: I should also point out we have about half a dozen ping-pong tables scattered around my work and our turnover figures were bang on average for annual benchmarking against the sector. I consider the average too high, though, and will be targeting better retention over this year. We’ll need at least double the amount of ping-pong tables.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
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      2 years ago

      I don’t see pizza party or ping pong table on that list so you’re obviously not a professional.

      A real professional knows employees want pizza parties instead of higher pay and they want more responsibilities with the same pay!

      :P

    • kurosawaa@programming.dev
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      2 years ago

      seriously,who has time to use a ping pong table at work? It’s like a decoration to remind you you’re not having fun.

  • peto (he/him)@lemm.ee
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    There is a bit of truth here. Toxic culture and out of touch management will make people walk as well.

    Thing is, there might just be a wad of cash big enough to make me put up with that against my health interests.

    Fuck ping pong tables though. No one left a company because they didn’t have enough fucking table sports. If you think they are then you are the problem. Exit interview your own fucking arse.

    • TommySalami@lemmy.world
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      “Man, my job pays horribly and the benefits barely cover anything, but they have a ping-pong table so it’s honestly a tough call.”

      I struggle to understand how someone could seriously write something like that question without a lack of self-awareness so dire that a walk to the kitchen would come with a near-death experience. It just can’t be real.

    • Hasherm0n@lemmy.world
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      One of the best bosses I ever had once told me that people will stay for the culture but leave for money. His philosophy was to try and ensure that money was not a factor in people’s decision, then build as good a culture as he could.

      And to be clear, by making money not a factor, I mean he paid well.

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        I had a meeting years ago with my company’s CTO about my salary. He kicked off the meeting by saying “you care a lot more about what you make than I do” which prompted me to ask for 50% more than I had been planning to ask for. He agreed to it without argument. TBF he was a coke addict married to the daughter of the company’s owner and within six months he’d been divorced and fired, but I got to keep my salary.

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    2 years ago

    Yeah, the main reason Ive changed jobs is money. Nobody gives raises like new bosses.

  • NotAFuckingBot@lemmy.world
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    There’s only been two reasons for me to quit a job: shitty pay and shitty people in charge.

    Sounds like this company has both.

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    2 years ago

    A company offered me a million dollars to work for them, but then I remembered the ping pong table at my current employer and said no way. Totally worth it.

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    2 years ago

    This reminds me of the Simpson episode where they are negotiating a new contract. It’s the same as the old one expect the they replace the dental plan with a keg of beer.

    Season 4 Episode 17 “Last Exit to Springfield” .